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, has it really changed? >> it hasn't changed right now because we haven't had an election. what has to happen is one candidate in illinois who went down, she was the first one who went down. >> for the seat once held by jesse jackson jr. >> she was too close to the nra. in 2014, believe me. there are going to be republican members from suburban districts. not from real world districts but suburban districts who are on the wrong side of this issue and should be driven from public office from this immoral stand on this issue. when that happens that will send a very powerful message and in 2015 you will see legislation on this issue. >> i want to read you a portion of heidi heitkamp's statement. in part she said i thought long and hard about this. i've taken the tough meetings. i've heard overwhelmingly from the people of north dakota, and at the end of the day my duty is to listen and republican the people of north dakota, corwin saying the same thing, even though 90% say they support expanded background checks. the reality is we still have a divide. >> four democrats. >> but she was
is entirely inaccurate. the media helped in this racializing in boston. they got help from the elected officials. here's republican congressman louis goe mert of texas on wednesday. >> we know al qaeda has camps with the drug cartels on the other side of the mexican border, people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the immigration status of people who terrorized the communities in massachusetts when we find out it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> actually, senator, maybe the weakness is in trying to tie terrorism to immigration. at the table, msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor, michael dyson and ari melber. >> former south carolina gop chair katon dawson and za here ali. gang of 8 in the midst of all this, gang of 8 puts out the immigration report. marco rubio does a kind of here's th
too fix it before the 2014 elections because another poll in this district that mitt romney won by 18% in this ppp poll said that by a two to one margin, voters were less likely to vote for republicans in the future because of their vote on background checks. i've said it all along. i've warned the nra from the beginning, give a pass on this legislation you've supported before. don't put your feet in cement because you're going to get knocked over. you're going to get beaten to a pulp politically. and you are. can you believe this, willie? >> this is too easy. it's not even risky for you to say. >> who are these fools on capitol hill who bury their head in the sand and are in the minority in one of the most conservative districts in one of the most conservative states in america and go with wayne lapierre instead of ronald reagan, who are these fools that listen to survivalists and cower in the corner and allow al qaeda members to have more readily access to weapons? who are these people? >> there are a lot of them. >> there are. >> we showed their names last week. >> they're democrat
republicans. >> obama: families that know unspeakable grief summoned the courage to petition their elected leaders, not just to honor the memory of their children, but to protect the lives of all of our children. a few minutes ago, a minority in the united states senate decided it wasn't worth it. >> michael: the amendment's odds looked so dim that joe manchin took to the senate floor this morning to make background a national security issue, by tying it to the fbi's most-wanted terrorist. >> our gun laws are so outdated and so out of whack that even this person who wants to do damage and harm to every american, even this american has figured out how to exploit them to arm themselves and people like him in our country. >> michael: connecticut senator chris murphy saw the result coming from a mile away. last night he tweeted . . . murphy of course represents newtown. in the 241 days since the slaughter of 20 school children and six educators, at least 3,482 americans have died in gun violence. that's about 134 new townes since newtown. these senators democrats and repu
's capital where senators are elected to do the will of the american people and instead, yesterday they did the will of the gun manufacturers and the gun lobby. you can be sure there will be more mass murders more massacres, in the next weeks and next months in this country but most of the united states senators don't give a rat's ass about it. hate to start with that downer but that's the way it is here on the "full court press" this morning. that's mainly what we're going to be talking about and taking your calls about here on this thursday morning. coming to you live from our nation's capital, just down the street from the scene of that cowardly vote yesterday. and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. looking forward to hearing from you and hearing your outrage on twitter at bpshow and on facebook, be our friend on facebook and tell us where the hell we go from here at facebook.com/billpressshow. man, lots to talk about this morning. we're all here. with peter ogborn and dan henning. >> yes sir. >> good morning. >> bill: we come in even on bad days. alichia cruz is here to take your calls.
forever is willing to risk it. >> you know barack obama would never say we helped you get elected last time. this is what i would do. we helped you get elected last time, heidi. i'm going to pick up this phone and spend the afternoon, if you vote against me on this, because this is not gun control. and you know it's not gun control. there's no national registry. >> it's not even remotely gun control. >> i would say this to every democrat. i'm going to be on this phone and i'm going to do nothing but call every one of my supporters and tell them to make your life a breathing hell over the next two years. i will make sure none of your legislation pass. most presidents would do this. >> joe, i'm with you. >> but to say this can't be done. most presidents i know. >> i'm not saying it can't be done. >> i know. i'm saying for people at home, it's a different era. no, it's not if you say, here is the deal. you vote out of fear if you want. you follow the lies if you want. i tell you what i'm going to do. i'm going to veto every single bill that comes my way that has anything to do with what y
of people like pat toomey to get back to the middle so they can win elections again and nra is very busy recruiting the angry people to them and that is what this is about. i think we had to have this battle. we may have had to lose this battle in order to galvanize the american people to understand how they are being blackmailed by the far right. >> a lot to go through to get anywhere. mark halpern, bring us into the mindset of someone who voted no here? what was the process of thinking before making that vote? >> well, look. it's a complicated issue and yesterday was an emotional day. i don't want to impugn people's motives. a lot of number of republican senators would have voted different had they not been afraid of the consequences. the president and vice president were emotional yesterday and i think they are struggling how to regroup from this. it's hard for me to see another vote any time soon unless they change the bill slightly. >> mark. >> yeah. >> can i ask, how is this a complicated issue? >> yeah. i really want to know. >> you said -- you said it was a complicated issue. as
the last time around, they saw the elections. they realized they needed to do something differently. they seen the opposition divided on this. remember, i should caution this bill just came out at 2:00 a.m. the other day. this is going to be a very long and arduous process and the opposition certainly could build as time goes on. >> manu, i want to talk about the background check bill which was filibustered to death yesterday. i want to ask you why did it fail, but first i want to run through five of the many theories that we hear running around on why it failed. the president says it's the fear of the nra. some are saying it is, as senator manchin just talked about, senators are being asked to choose between immigration and guns. some are pointing out this is a party line vote except for these eight people. that's a different story, but let ee see if we can show the eight senators who vote, the democrats who voted no, most of them rural, the republicans who voted yes. but beyond that, it's pretty much a party line vote and joe scarborough this morning says the party is moving towar
. the worry that that vocal minority of gun owners would come after them in future elections, and so they caved to the pressure. so all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> the amendment is not agreed to. senato along with fourblican moderate democrats ved d an attempt to expand background checks to people who buy guns at gun shows and over the internet. >> criminals do not submit to background checks now. they will not submit to expanded background checks. >> in a station the national rifle association called the legislation misguided. >> order in the senate. >> the defeat was a big blow to the president and his senate allies including democratic senator richard bloom en thaul. >> today was a heartbreaker, probably the saddest day in my senate life. >> gun victims' families who watched the votes in the senate and lobbied hard for the legislation say they're not done yet. carly soto's 27-year-old sister victoria soto, a teacher, was killed. >> it might not be next week or a month after that or months from now but we're not going away. >> it's now widely expected
and your democratically elected representatives going another way. it may change. >> john: do you agree, seeing how the public has moved in issues like marriage equality is a precedent here? >> absolutely, and i think the politicians are going to have a surprise in 2014 if america can get their act together and say you're not payings attention to what we're saying. >> heidi heitkamp of north dakota, bill daily who donated $2,500 to her campaign said he was betrayed and said, quote i want my money back. will it matter if people will withhold their donations or will they get enough from the gun lobby to make up for it. what is this all about. >> we know about the revolving door of politics. in terms of how the money flows it's both sides. it's not just republicans who are receiving nra money. it goes both ways. and having posted a study to find out that background checks are more popular than kittens. >> john: more popular than christmas. >> i'm happy about that, i'm tired of kittens being on their high horse. >> after newtown happened, and there is no way to laugh about newtown, connecti
are disappointed and if they don't act this time, you will remember come election time. and i see this as just round one. >> joining us now, joy reid, managing editor for the grio.com. joy, thanks for joining any. >> thank withdryou. >> harry reid pulled the bill from consideration. news accounts are casting this as a loss for president obama, making it personal. i don't think the president was about making this personal. >> yeah, i mean, you can see from his reaction, right, when he did that news conference, after the bill went down, that he's angry. he is personally angry about this. you can also see that it's because the newtown shooting, the massacre at sandy hook, affected him in a way that was so deeply personal as a dad. you can see he's reacting just as a father. he is livid. if you leave the reports, he's particularly angry about those democrats who jumped ship on him, the four democrats who vote against the bill. personalizing it and claiming this is a loss for obama is a way of reframing this debate as your typical barack obama puts himself above the interests of whatever. it's all
reelection. my question is you should not be worried about the election. this is too fundamental to go against not only democracy, but denying a vote on the floor of the u.s. senate literally has no justification. >> stephanie: yeah. yeah. literally. the president's press secretary yesterday, jay carney. >> the newtown families are here because their children were murdered. they are asking for the senate to do something that is common sense. >> stephanie: i can't imagine a sadder day for american. the six year olds were blown away at point-blank range, and the united states congress woman who was shot in the face and we can't even get enough democrats to vote for this? where are we politically in america and where do we go from here? >> you may hear from my tone that i'm a little bit of horse. this is a different reaction than i usually have. i write a column purple nation where i try to look at things both ways. i am somewhat astonished but i see no nuance on the question to democrats how could you not allow a vote on this? and i want those names, and they may be f
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